Comments on: Thoughts: Hack, Slash, Loot.

By: hentzau

hentzau — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:25:39 +0000

Well I probably wouldn’t go that far since I at least had the option to stop after the first three hours. But yeah. I did like the different quests and different baddie types you’d fight in each quest, but one good idea does not a decent roguelike make, especially when the rest of it is as bad as this one.

By: Greg S

Greg S — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:08:27 +0000

The only element of mastery over luck is that when you waste/spend enough time in the game to a) find and b) kill a boss (which takes a good hour… or indefinitely, depending on how merciless the RNG gods are feeling), you have a (prepare to laugh in pain) RNG chance to start a quest with a specific type of gear.

For example, if you kill the Goblin King and pick up some Runesword which is fairly powerful. You have a chance of spawning with only ONE boss item, you can never spawn with multiple.

It’s the biggest piss take that even when you have these items, there’s only a chance of spawning with them and no element of choice of which one you get. Your review was fair in my eyes, and it’s about on par in terms of enjoyability as giving oral sex to a cactus. Forcibly. For the rest of your life.

By: hentzau

hentzau — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:06:22 +0000

I don’t understand what I can do to better my odds aside from “loot everything”, though. As I said, the strategy seems to consist of fighting in a chokepoint and trusting to luck that the level will run out of bad guys before you run out of health. I think I gave HSL a fair try — I even went back to it after I wrote this because I thought I might have been a bit too harsh — but I just couldn’t see anything *fun* in the way it went about killing me. I’m not saying it’s broken. It’s working exactly as the developer intends. I just vehemently disagree with his intention, is all.

Regardless, thanks for taking the time to comment!

By: gerard

gerard — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:50:46 +0000

Just came here by accident and must admit I have only skimmed your wall of text, as I think I know pretty much what you wrote since I almost stopped playing the game myself after the first day. No strategy, pure RNG and all that.
But…then I thought maybe I just played it wrong, tried it again, this time really paying attention to all the little things you can do to better your odds and what do you know, now I love the game and I win almost all the time. Over the last couple of games I had something like 3 wins to each death and I even win with the weakest classes without artifacts. A pure RNG this is not.
That’s not to say you will like it even if you took the time to learn it, but just saying it is broken doesn’t make it so either.

By: hentzau

hentzau — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:23:02 +0000

I also tried the demo and didn’t see much there, but given the glowing recommendation RPS gave it I thought that maybe I just didn’t get it. I really have to stop listening to them on indie games because they’ve gotten it right exactly once in the last four months.

By: innokenti

innokenti — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:11:26 +0000

Yeah, I remember this now… I played the demo of it when RPS mentioned it and found it abysmal. I think I tried to blank it out as much as possible after that.

It was pretty awful in almost every respect. Sorry you got it…