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		<title>By: hentzau</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-392</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a slight quantity of cynicism in me stating string theory is crap with the conviction I do; since there isn&#039;t the slightest chance of string theory being proven correct within my lifetime, there is a similarly negligible chance that I will be proven wrong in saying it&#039;s bollocks. The truth of the matter is that if a Theory of Everything does exist it wouldn&#039;t be easy to formulate, and that scientists would probably take as long over it as they have over string theory. However, just because it resembles a Theory of Everything doesn&#039;t necessarily make it so. At the moment it&#039;s just an interesting curio with a lot of hot air being blown around it, and definitely *not* something that should be constantly touted as the future of physics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a slight quantity of cynicism in me stating string theory is crap with the conviction I do; since there isn&#8217;t the slightest chance of string theory being proven correct within my lifetime, there is a similarly negligible chance that I will be proven wrong in saying it&#8217;s bollocks. The truth of the matter is that if a Theory of Everything does exist it wouldn&#8217;t be easy to formulate, and that scientists would probably take as long over it as they have over string theory. However, just because it resembles a Theory of Everything doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it so. At the moment it&#8217;s just an interesting curio with a lot of hot air being blown around it, and definitely *not* something that should be constantly touted as the future of physics.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Benton</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-391</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough, results are always kinda...useful...for science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, results are always kinda&#8230;useful&#8230;for science.</p>
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		<title>By: hentzau</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-390</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not really, because it&#039;s been forty years and the best people have been able to do with it is:

String theory as it is currently understood has a huge number of solutions, called string vacua,[31] and these vacua might be sufficiently diverse to accommodate almost any phenomena we might observe at lower energies.

Forty years, and they still haven&#039;t succeeded in narrowing it down to the point where it says anything *useful*. General relativity and quantum mechanics were complete disciplines after forty years! I know it can sometimes take a while to formulate a scientific theory, but string theorists are taking the piss and every time I think of them I think of this:

&quot;Yes,&quot; declaimed Deep Thought, &quot;I said I&#039;d have to think about it, didn&#039;t I? And it occurs to me that running a programme like this is bound to create an enormous amount of popular publicity for the whole area of philosophy in general. Everyone&#039;s going to have their own theories about what answer I&#039;m eventually to come up with, and who better to capitalize on that media market than you yourself? So long as you can keep disagreeing with each other violently enough and slagging each other off in the popular press, you can keep yourself on the gravy train for life. How does that sound?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really, because it&#8217;s been forty years and the best people have been able to do with it is:</p>
<p>String theory as it is currently understood has a huge number of solutions, called string vacua,[31] and these vacua might be sufficiently diverse to accommodate almost any phenomena we might observe at lower energies.</p>
<p>Forty years, and they still haven&#8217;t succeeded in narrowing it down to the point where it says anything *useful*. General relativity and quantum mechanics were complete disciplines after forty years! I know it can sometimes take a while to formulate a scientific theory, but string theorists are taking the piss and every time I think of them I think of this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes,&#8221; declaimed Deep Thought, &#8220;I said I&#8217;d have to think about it, didn&#8217;t I? And it occurs to me that running a programme like this is bound to create an enormous amount of popular publicity for the whole area of philosophy in general. Everyone&#8217;s going to have their own theories about what answer I&#8217;m eventually to come up with, and who better to capitalize on that media market than you yourself? So long as you can keep disagreeing with each other violently enough and slagging each other off in the popular press, you can keep yourself on the gravy train for life. How does that sound?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Benton</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-389</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would such ambiguity be more tolerable if the people involved were less certain. If it were the &quot;string hypothesis&quot; and people considered an interesting avenue of research, but nothing remotely definitive yet, would you be more tolerant of string theory being a twisty turny thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would such ambiguity be more tolerable if the people involved were less certain. If it were the &#8220;string hypothesis&#8221; and people considered an interesting avenue of research, but nothing remotely definitive yet, would you be more tolerant of string theory being a twisty turny thing.</p>
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		<title>By: hentzau</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-388</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is that it&#039;s *too* flexible. On the face of it string theorists are doing exactly what good scientists should do: adjusting their theory in the face of negative proof so that it works again. The thing is that string theory is theoretical enough and amorphous enough that they could continue to do this indefinitely no matter how much negative proof was turned up. No-one is ever going to be able to point to something and say &quot;Look, this is a string!&quot; or even &quot;Look, this is something being caused by a string!&quot; and as long as this state of affairs persists string theory will always survive in some form. Is that scientific? I don&#039;t think so.

Now, perhaps in the future they will narrow it down some more. Perhaps in the future new experimental techniques will be developed that allow the hardening of some facets of string theory and turn it into something that is legitimately scientific. Right *now*, though, string theory is the mathematical equivalent of me stating &quot;Everything exists&quot;. Technically this describes the state of the universe. Scientifically it carries about as much weight as a noisy fart on a windy day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that it&#8217;s *too* flexible. On the face of it string theorists are doing exactly what good scientists should do: adjusting their theory in the face of negative proof so that it works again. The thing is that string theory is theoretical enough and amorphous enough that they could continue to do this indefinitely no matter how much negative proof was turned up. No-one is ever going to be able to point to something and say &#8220;Look, this is a string!&#8221; or even &#8220;Look, this is something being caused by a string!&#8221; and as long as this state of affairs persists string theory will always survive in some form. Is that scientific? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Now, perhaps in the future they will narrow it down some more. Perhaps in the future new experimental techniques will be developed that allow the hardening of some facets of string theory and turn it into something that is legitimately scientific. Right *now*, though, string theory is the mathematical equivalent of me stating &#8220;Everything exists&#8221;. Technically this describes the state of the universe. Scientifically it carries about as much weight as a noisy fart on a windy day.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Benton</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-387</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But if string theory is constantly changing then is it not being falsified in a sense. Old string theory was shown to be wrong so a new, more &quot;accurate&quot; version is invented. As such is not the real issue not so much whether string theory is being tested but after how many false tests should it be abandoned. 

One can run contortions to make nearly any idea match reality. At what point has ST&#039;s contortions run beyond merely correcting itself to just being plain absurd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if string theory is constantly changing then is it not being falsified in a sense. Old string theory was shown to be wrong so a new, more &#8220;accurate&#8221; version is invented. As such is not the real issue not so much whether string theory is being tested but after how many false tests should it be abandoned. </p>
<p>One can run contortions to make nearly any idea match reality. At what point has ST&#8217;s contortions run beyond merely correcting itself to just being plain absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Smurf</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-386</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I entertained my family the other week with my rage at a programme (I can&#039;t remember what it was now) that was putting forward String Theory as fact.  They basically replaced &quot;We think&quot; with &quot;We know&quot; in their script and I spent the whole time actually shouting at the screen that this was all theory and most of what they were talking about made no sense.

In the end I think we changed channels to prevent me exploding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I entertained my family the other week with my rage at a programme (I can&#8217;t remember what it was now) that was putting forward String Theory as fact.  They basically replaced &#8220;We think&#8221; with &#8220;We know&#8221; in their script and I spent the whole time actually shouting at the screen that this was all theory and most of what they were talking about made no sense.</p>
<p>In the end I think we changed channels to prevent me exploding.</p>
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		<title>By: VivaVirago</title>
		<link>https://scientificgamer.com/if-cats-were-scientists/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VivaVirago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So essentially what you are saying is that string theory is a bit ropey. Nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So essentially what you are saying is that string theory is a bit ropey. Nice.</p>
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